LCD: 20 o 22?

Bioti · Gigahertz es mi segundo nombre Registrado: 29 Mar 2007 Mensajes: 104

Como andan gente? Como verán, se está renovando un poco el mobiliario informático en casa Smile

Resulta que ya me cansé demi viejo Samsung Syncmaster3, y es hora de cambiarlo por un lindo LCD.
El uso va a ser ofimático normal, leer algunas cosas para la facu (algún que otro libro o apunte), juegos ocacionalmente (PES6, algun NFS, por ahora) y mayormente la idea sería usar la compu para mirar tele y pelis (ya vendrá el thread de las sinto..).
Mi idea, ya que le voy a dar un uso de tele, sería comprar un 20". Resulta que estuve mirando y ahora me tenté con los 22".
La idea sería ir por algún Dell de la serie económica, tipo e207wfp o e228wfp, ya que lo que es Ultrasharp, como el 2007wfp se me va demasiado caro para mi gusto.
Si bien uno diría "cual es la duda? comprate el más grande!", al investigar un poco vi que en general, los 20 y 22 son lo mismo, la misma resolución, sólo que el 22 tiene un pixel más grande. Esto seguramente debe traer aparejado una menor definición. Si bien al usarlo como tele, si lo miro medio de lejos no se debe notar nada, al usarlo como pc quizás si, entonces mi duda es si vale la pena ir por un 22 o quedarme con un 20 con mayor definición, y quizás si me convencen hasta ir, casi por la misma plata, por un Ultrasharp de 20 en vez del de 22.
La verdad que no se mucho de LCD, lo único que usé aparte de notes es un 17", por lo que no se realmente como se verá de cerca un 22 o un 20 con esas diferencias de tamaño de pixel. Que opinan?
Desde ya que escucho sugerencias de otras marcas o modelos, y lo ideal sería que sean DVI.
Bueno gentes, escucho opiniones!
salu2!

GenAris · Publicado: Vie Jun 29, 2007 5:46 pm **Título del mensaje**:

Hace poco vi dos monitores, de 20" y 22", uno al lado de otro y en contraste, y la verdad es que se nota la diferencia que hay entre ambos. Por el lado de la resolución, yo creo que no vas a tener problemas. 1680 x 1050 sería algo así como 1280 x 1024, y en un monitor de 19 pulgadas esa resolución es la ideal. Lo importante es que se vea nítido, y si el monitor tiene esa resolución nativa, pues se verá muy bien.

Por otro lado, considerá que una mayor resolución nativa exigirá un mayor poder de procesamiento en la placa de video, ya que si colocás el monitor a una resolución inferior a la que soporta nativamente se verá un poco borroso (de todos modos, en juegos donde no hay mucho que leer, no se nota tanto).

Además, si el asunto es leer, pienso que si el tamaño de letra es mayor y no vas a perder espacio en la pantalla, es mejor. Por cierto, algo que tenés que tener en cuenta en la lectura es que te puede perjudicar un poco el tamaño vertical; sé que algunos monitores pueden girarse 90° para tener un súper espacio vertical, que sin dudas será lo mejor si tratás de leer apuntes en PDF o cosas por el estilo. No sé si los Dell que mencionás (que sé que son muy buenos) soportan esta función.

Bioti · Publicado: Sab Jun 30, 2007 12:08 am **Título del mensaje**:

Claro, el tema es que tanto el de 20 como el de 22 tienen la misma resolución, por lo que la diferencia está en el tamaño del pixel. Lo que me preocuparía es que el de 22 se note mucho más el pixelado, sobre todo al usarlo como pc que te ponés más cerca (al usarlo como tele estás tirado en la cama con una Stout en una mano y unas Lays en la otra). O sea que me molestaría que por ir por 2 pulgadas más después se inferior la calidad de imagen que el más chico. Esa es una duda.
La otra, es si ir por una gama alta o una económica. En el caso que ponía, el 2007wfp es de gama alta, para darte una idea, en Dell.com está 1800 mangos el de 20 mientras que el económico de 22 (el e228wfp) esta algo de 1500 mangos. Como verás. la diferencia es grosa en dinero.
En cuanto a la calidad, el 2007 tiene un panel distinto (la última revisión trae un panel S-IPS, que es de los mejorcitos, el otro es TN que es de los más rápidos pero más baratos), con una tencnología superior en cuanto a calidad, tiene mayori diferencia de contraste entre el blanco y el negro, por lo que le entran más colores (16.7 millones contra 16.2 del otro). En teoría es un poco más lento el refresco, pero según dicen usuarios no se nota ningún tipo de ghosting, fuera del blur que se nota en todos los LCD al jugar. Adem's de eso, tiene más entradas (vga, dvi, composite y svideo contra vga y dvi del otro), usb, y es pivotante, por lo que se puede poner vertical como decis, cosa que el "barato" no.
En síntesis, la duda era hasta donde vale la pena pagar la diferencia de guita por esas mejoras, ya que según dicen son algo notorias en calidad y accesorios, pero la diferencia de guita es grande, sobre todo si encima lo comparas con el modelo de 20 (el e207wfp) que sale algo de 1200 mangos.
En cuanto a la resolución, trataré de tirarlo lo más que pueda con mi 9800se@Pro, en teoría se queda corta pero le sacaré detalle, tampoco
es que juegue tanto, y algún dia cambiaré la pc.....
O sea, que después de tanta palabra extraña y cosas raras, las dudas son:
1) En la linea economica, 20 y 22 con misma resolucion y pixel mas grande en el segundo, conviene el 22 o se verá mejor el de 20?
2) Cualquiera sea la respuesta de 1), vale la pena la diferencia de guita por uno igual o más chico pero de mejor calidad?
3) Podré tirar algo con mi vga?
salu2!

pd: igual, creo que esperaré a la expo de Dell en julio para ver si los puedo ver andando y me saco la duda....

Bioti · Publicado: Dom Jul 22, 2007 1:23 am **Título del mensaje**:

Bueno gente, terminé comprando el Dell 2007wfp, y la verdad que es una masa.
En cuanto a la expo de Dell, una pedorrada mal, al menos para mi que iba a ver monitores...

Ramya · Pequeño hardmaníaco Registrado: 15 Dic 2009 Mensajes: 5

The Wallet

As I walked home one freezing day, I stumbled on a wallet someone had lost in the street. I picked it up and looked inside to find some identification so I could call the owner. But the wallet contained only three dollars and a crumpled letter that looked as if it had been in there for years. The envelope was worn and the only thing that was legible on it was the return address. (world of warcraft power leveling)
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It was a beautiful letter, but there was no way, except for the name Michael, to identify the owner. Maybe if I called information, the operator could find a phone listing for the address on the envelope. The operator suggested I speak with her supervisor, who hesitated for a moment, then said, "Well, there is a phone listing at that address, but I can't give you the number. " She said as a courtesy, she would call that number, explain my story and ask whoever answered if the person wanted her to connect me. Aion kina

I waited a few minutes and then the super－visor was back on the line. "I have a party who will speak with you. " I asked the woman on the other end of the line if she knew anyone by the name of Hannah. She gasped. " Oh! We bought this house from a family who had a daughter named Hannah. But that was thirty years ago!" "Would you know where that family could be located now？" I asked. "I remember that Hannah had to place her mother in a nursing home some years ago, "the woman said. "Maybe if you got in touch with them, they might be able to track down the daughter. "She gave me the name of the nursing home, and I called the number. The woman on the phone told me the old lady had passed away some years ago, but the nursing home did have a phone number for where the daughter might be living. I thanked the person at the nursing home and phoned the number she gave me. The woman who answered explained that Hannah herself was now living in a nursing home. This whole thing is stupid, I thought to myself. Why am I making such a big deal over finding the owner of a wallet that has only three dollars and a letter that is almost sixty years old？

Nevertheless, I called the nursing home in which Hannah was supposed to be living, and the man who answered the phone told me , "Yes, Hannah is staying with us. "Even though it was already 10 P. M. , I asked if I could come by to see her. "Well, "he said hesitatingly, "if you want to take a chance, she might be in the day room watching television. "

world of warcraft gold,I thanked him and drove over to the nursing home. The night nurse and a guard greeted me at the door. We went up to the third floor of the large building. In the day room, the nurse introduced me to Hannah. She was a sweet, silverhaired old－timer with a warm smile and a twinkle in her eyes. I told her about finding the wallet and showed her the letter. The second she saw the powder－blue envelope with that little flower on the left, she took a deep breath and said, "Young man, this letter was the last contact I ever had with Michael. "She looked away for a moment, deep in thought, and then said softly, "I loved him very much. But I was only sixteen at the time and my mother felt I was too young. Oh, he was so handsome. He looked like Sean Connery, the actor. "

"Yes, " she continued, "Michael Goldstein was a wonderful person. If you should find him, tell him I think of him often. And, " she hesitated for a moment, almost biting her lip, tears welled up in her eyes, "I never did marry. I guess no one ever matched up to Michael. . . "I thanked Hannah and said good－bye. I took the elevator to the first floor and as I stood by the door, the guard there asked, "Was the old lady able to help you？"I told him she had given me a lead. "At least I have a last name. But I think I'll let it go for a while. I spent almost the whole day trying to find the owner of this wallet. "I had taken out the wallet, which was a simple brown leather case with red lacing on the side. When the guard saw it, he said, "Hey, wait a minute! That's Mr. Goldstein's wallet. I'd know it anywhere with that bright red lacing. He 's always losing that wallet. I must have found it in the halls at least three times. " wow gold

　"Who's Mr. Goldstein？"I asked, as my hand began to shake. "He 's one of the old－timers on the eighth floor. That's Mike Goldstein's wallet for sure. He must have lost it on one of his walks. "I thanked the guard and quickly ran back to the nurse's office. I told her what the guard had said. We went back to the elevator and got on. I prayed that Mr. Goldstein would be up.

On the eighth floor, the floor nurse said, "I think he's still in the day room. He likes to read at night. He 's a darling old man. "We went to the only room that had any lights on, and there was a man reading a book. The nurse went over to him and asked if he had lost hiswallet. Mr. Goldstein looked up with surprise, put his hand in his back pocket and said, "Oh, it is missing. ""This kind gentleman found a wallet and we wondered if it could be yours. "I handed Mr. Goldstein the wallet, and the second he saw it, he smiled with relief and said, "Yes, that's it！ It must have dropped out of my pocket this afternoon. I want to give you a reward. "

　"No, thank you, "I said. "But I have to tell you something. I read the letter in the hope of finding out who owned the wallet. "The smile on his face suddenly disappeared. "You read that letter？""Not only did I read it, I think I know where Hannah is. " ffxi gil

He suddenly grew pale. "Hannah？You know where she is？How is she？Is she still as pretty as she was？Please, please tell me, " he begged. "She's fine. . . just as pretty as when you knew her, " I said softly.

The old man smiled with anticipation and asked, "Could you tell me where she is？I want to call her tomorrow. "He grabbed my hand and said, "You know something, mister？I was so in love with that girl that when that letter came, my life literally ended. I never married. I guess I've always loved her. "

"Michael, " I said, "come with me. "We took the elevator down to the third floor. The hallways were darkened and only one or two little night lights lit our way to the day room, where Hannah was sitting alone, watching the television.

The nurse walked over to her. "Hannah, "she said softly, pointing to Michael, who was waiting with me in the doorway. "Do you know this man？"She adjusted her glasses, looked for a moment, but didn't say a word.

Michael said softly, almost in a whisper, "Hannah, it's Michael. Do you remember me？"She gasped. "Michael! I don't believe it! Michael! It's you! My Michael!"He walked slowly toward her, and they embraced. The nurse and I left with tears streaming down our faces. "See, "I said. "See how the good Lord works! If it's meant to be, it will be. "

world of warcraft power leveling, About three weeks later, I got a call at my office from the nursing home. "Can you break away on Sunday to attend a wedding？Michael and Hannah are going to tie the knot!"